enggr
03-17 03:56 AM
Friends,
My I-140 got denied after the RFE response. In response to the RFE in September my lawyer responded to the RFE in November and the result came early this month (march 2008).
In the RFE response in last November my lawyer told USCIS that the category was marked wrong as EB2 where the case should be actually under EB3.
USCIS denied the application saying that application cannot be approved under EB2 and request for EB3 cannot be entertained at this point.
The following are the words from USCIS denial notice.
"The petitioner indicated that it had made an error in marking the petition form and that the petition should be considered one requesting the beneficiary's classification under a different section of law. However, since the petition was filed for second-preference classification and was initially adjudicated on that basis, USCIS will not at this stage consider it for some other classification.
In accordance with a USCIS announcement dated on May 23, 2007, the petitioner may elect to file a new petition on the beneficiary's behalf requesting a different visa classification but supported by the instant labor certification.(A motion making this request would be denied.) If the petitioner elects to persue this option, it should include a cover letter which explains the request, include a copy of this denial notice, and clearly report that the original labor certification is with LIN XXXXXXXXXX housed in AXXXXXXXXX. "
Also mine and my wife's I-485 got denied on the same day. In the denial notice of I-485 USCIS has mentioned that "The regulation does not provide for an appeal to this decision."
We are planning to file a new labor certification by end of this month as the current one is 99% a gone case
As you all know I was trying to save this application to save my wife's EAD.
Please help me with one of the options below.
Regarding my rejected I-140 I have two choices as per USCIS and my lawyer. Either of them should be filed 33 days from first week of march. Doing both of the below options at the same time will result in automatic rejection of both
1) Appealing the decision
Pros: My wife gets a chance to win her EAD back which is a big win for us
Cons: USCIS has indicated in the rejection notice that they are rejecting the I-140 because it does not qualify for EB2. they added that our request for converting it into EB3 cannot be entertained at this moment of time. So chances of winning the appeal is small compared to filing new I-140 as per my lawyer
2) Applying new EB3 I-140
Pros: Chances of getting an approval under this new EB3 I-140 is more compared to appealing the old EB2 application (the old application also includes and the request to convert EB2 into EB3)
Cons: Definite loss of my wife's EAD. Also since the labor is on Aug 2006 they have a common expiration date of Jan 2008. All labors from June 2007 (somewhere around that time) expire 6 months of the approval date and I-140 within that 6 months only will be considered for processing. Since we have passed the Jan 2008 period my lawyer is saying the new I-140 can also get rejected. the only argument we can place is, the processing time taken/length of old I-140 processing and the suggestion given on old I-140 denial notice dated march 1st week.
I am wondering whether we can do an MTR (Motion to re-open on the old application). This option is not mentioned by USCIS or lawyer. I am wondering whether this option will eliminate the appeal/new I-140 application within 33 days previlege
. My answer to my attorney regarding the next course of action depends on your advice(s) very much.
Thanks in advance and I really appreciate who posted replies to my questions earlier.
Enggr:
Labor approved 2006 Aug EB2
I-140 applied 2006 Nov EB2
I-140 RFE 2007 Sep
RFE response 2007 Nov
I-140 denied 2008 Mar
My I-140 got denied after the RFE response. In response to the RFE in September my lawyer responded to the RFE in November and the result came early this month (march 2008).
In the RFE response in last November my lawyer told USCIS that the category was marked wrong as EB2 where the case should be actually under EB3.
USCIS denied the application saying that application cannot be approved under EB2 and request for EB3 cannot be entertained at this point.
The following are the words from USCIS denial notice.
"The petitioner indicated that it had made an error in marking the petition form and that the petition should be considered one requesting the beneficiary's classification under a different section of law. However, since the petition was filed for second-preference classification and was initially adjudicated on that basis, USCIS will not at this stage consider it for some other classification.
In accordance with a USCIS announcement dated on May 23, 2007, the petitioner may elect to file a new petition on the beneficiary's behalf requesting a different visa classification but supported by the instant labor certification.(A motion making this request would be denied.) If the petitioner elects to persue this option, it should include a cover letter which explains the request, include a copy of this denial notice, and clearly report that the original labor certification is with LIN XXXXXXXXXX housed in AXXXXXXXXX. "
Also mine and my wife's I-485 got denied on the same day. In the denial notice of I-485 USCIS has mentioned that "The regulation does not provide for an appeal to this decision."
We are planning to file a new labor certification by end of this month as the current one is 99% a gone case
As you all know I was trying to save this application to save my wife's EAD.
Please help me with one of the options below.
Regarding my rejected I-140 I have two choices as per USCIS and my lawyer. Either of them should be filed 33 days from first week of march. Doing both of the below options at the same time will result in automatic rejection of both
1) Appealing the decision
Pros: My wife gets a chance to win her EAD back which is a big win for us
Cons: USCIS has indicated in the rejection notice that they are rejecting the I-140 because it does not qualify for EB2. they added that our request for converting it into EB3 cannot be entertained at this moment of time. So chances of winning the appeal is small compared to filing new I-140 as per my lawyer
2) Applying new EB3 I-140
Pros: Chances of getting an approval under this new EB3 I-140 is more compared to appealing the old EB2 application (the old application also includes and the request to convert EB2 into EB3)
Cons: Definite loss of my wife's EAD. Also since the labor is on Aug 2006 they have a common expiration date of Jan 2008. All labors from June 2007 (somewhere around that time) expire 6 months of the approval date and I-140 within that 6 months only will be considered for processing. Since we have passed the Jan 2008 period my lawyer is saying the new I-140 can also get rejected. the only argument we can place is, the processing time taken/length of old I-140 processing and the suggestion given on old I-140 denial notice dated march 1st week.
I am wondering whether we can do an MTR (Motion to re-open on the old application). This option is not mentioned by USCIS or lawyer. I am wondering whether this option will eliminate the appeal/new I-140 application within 33 days previlege
. My answer to my attorney regarding the next course of action depends on your advice(s) very much.
Thanks in advance and I really appreciate who posted replies to my questions earlier.
Enggr:
Labor approved 2006 Aug EB2
I-140 applied 2006 Nov EB2
I-140 RFE 2007 Sep
RFE response 2007 Nov
I-140 denied 2008 Mar
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03-04 11:02 PM
I think the answer is yes.
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07-25 12:11 PM
Some clarifications needed here !
1.) Data entry is not done by adjudication officers (AO)
2.) Unless an AO is trained in a particular "production line"
(I-485, I-765 etc.) they cannot move them around
3.) Bear in mind AO's have the option to and do work from home too.
4.) The adjudication rate per past service center reports is
around 2 or3 cases per hour for I-485
The assumptions here are all the 50 guys are working only on EB cases no family and other cases, they are not doing any other data entry job like putting 450/ead/ap applications into system, they are not approving any of ead/ap cases. And they are working 8 hours daily. Looking at the general work environment around i bet the productive hrs in 8 hr work day is around 5/6 hrs. So keeping in mind these factors i feel the 80000 is okay number. They certainly need more staff. My 2 cents.
1.) Data entry is not done by adjudication officers (AO)
2.) Unless an AO is trained in a particular "production line"
(I-485, I-765 etc.) they cannot move them around
3.) Bear in mind AO's have the option to and do work from home too.
4.) The adjudication rate per past service center reports is
around 2 or3 cases per hour for I-485
The assumptions here are all the 50 guys are working only on EB cases no family and other cases, they are not doing any other data entry job like putting 450/ead/ap applications into system, they are not approving any of ead/ap cases. And they are working 8 hours daily. Looking at the general work environment around i bet the productive hrs in 8 hr work day is around 5/6 hrs. So keeping in mind these factors i feel the 80000 is okay number. They certainly need more staff. My 2 cents.
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04-18 11:18 PM
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Friday, April 13, 2007
Bills Introduced
There have been two bills introduced which may help our cause and are surely of interest to readers of this Blog.
The first is a re-introduction of the SKIL Bill (S. 1083). The text of the bill has not yet been released to the public. It is expected that this will contain the same retrogression-elimination language that was contained in the 2006 version of the bill. The bill was introduced by Senator Cornyn and cosponsors include Senators Allard (R-CO), Bennett (R-UT), Hutchison (R-TX), and Lott (R-MS). As readers of this blog may be aware, Sen. Hutchison has long been a leader on Schedule A visa reform.
The second bill (S. 1092) seeks to immediately raise the H-1 quota, and was proposed directly as a result of last week�s immediately-reached H-1 visa cap. Sen. Hagel is the sponsor of this bill. The text of this bill is unavailable at this time as well.
Both bills shortly should be available on THOMAS.
UPDATE: As expected the 2007 version of the SKIL Bill contains favorable language.
Friday, April 13, 2007
Bills Introduced
There have been two bills introduced which may help our cause and are surely of interest to readers of this Blog.
The first is a re-introduction of the SKIL Bill (S. 1083). The text of the bill has not yet been released to the public. It is expected that this will contain the same retrogression-elimination language that was contained in the 2006 version of the bill. The bill was introduced by Senator Cornyn and cosponsors include Senators Allard (R-CO), Bennett (R-UT), Hutchison (R-TX), and Lott (R-MS). As readers of this blog may be aware, Sen. Hutchison has long been a leader on Schedule A visa reform.
The second bill (S. 1092) seeks to immediately raise the H-1 quota, and was proposed directly as a result of last week�s immediately-reached H-1 visa cap. Sen. Hagel is the sponsor of this bill. The text of this bill is unavailable at this time as well.
Both bills shortly should be available on THOMAS.
UPDATE: As expected the 2007 version of the SKIL Bill contains favorable language.
chanduv23
02-18 09:25 AM
http://www.littleindia.com/news/156/ARTICLE/2040/2008-02-04.html
I was quite disappointed to see so much space devoted Senator Barack Obama in "Power Politics" (January 2008). In particular, I was upset at the "feel good" nonsense spouted, like Bushisms, by one supporter: "I have looked him straight in the eye and I can tell you first hand that the man believes in what he says."
My daughter, a Democrat activist at Georgetown University also had a first hand experience with Sen. Obama when he gave a speech there last year. After the speech he was approached by my Indian daughter and an Anglo-Saxon friend for a handshake, a few words and a photo op. Sen. Obama was brusque, rude and stated that he was too busy for a picture with them. A few steps later he was stopped by an African American woman, who made the identical request. Without hesitation he spoke to her for a few minutes and posed for a photograph, all within feet of my daughter and her friend.
I have tried to contact the senator's staff by phone and e-mail to communicate the disappointment of the two young girls, but have had no response.
My daughter and I will certainly vote for the person his staff tried to insult as the "Senator from Punjab," Sen. Hillary Clinton, and pray that in the final analysis others, young and old, will value the experience and proven loyalty to Indians of the Clintons. I hope I won't be forced to make a choice between Sen. Obama and Sen. John McCain.
Jan Vyas, Via eMail
I was quite disappointed to see so much space devoted Senator Barack Obama in "Power Politics" (January 2008). In particular, I was upset at the "feel good" nonsense spouted, like Bushisms, by one supporter: "I have looked him straight in the eye and I can tell you first hand that the man believes in what he says."
My daughter, a Democrat activist at Georgetown University also had a first hand experience with Sen. Obama when he gave a speech there last year. After the speech he was approached by my Indian daughter and an Anglo-Saxon friend for a handshake, a few words and a photo op. Sen. Obama was brusque, rude and stated that he was too busy for a picture with them. A few steps later he was stopped by an African American woman, who made the identical request. Without hesitation he spoke to her for a few minutes and posed for a photograph, all within feet of my daughter and her friend.
I have tried to contact the senator's staff by phone and e-mail to communicate the disappointment of the two young girls, but have had no response.
My daughter and I will certainly vote for the person his staff tried to insult as the "Senator from Punjab," Sen. Hillary Clinton, and pray that in the final analysis others, young and old, will value the experience and proven loyalty to Indians of the Clintons. I hope I won't be forced to make a choice between Sen. Obama and Sen. John McCain.
Jan Vyas, Via eMail
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obviously
08-04 11:54 AM
Yes, the new I-140 has the old EB3 PD on it.
So, the I-485 itself cannot be 'ported', right? Interfiling gives the benefit of having an I-140 with a higher category (here, EB2), but an older PD (from the EB3). Right?
What kind of 'delays' does the new I-485 application add? (Possibly a moot point ;)) New medicals (ouch!)? etc.? etc.?
Cheers!
So, the I-485 itself cannot be 'ported', right? Interfiling gives the benefit of having an I-140 with a higher category (here, EB2), but an older PD (from the EB3). Right?
What kind of 'delays' does the new I-485 application add? (Possibly a moot point ;)) New medicals (ouch!)? etc.? etc.?
Cheers!
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Quest99
09-14 04:40 PM
It looks like a case of misunderstanding. Did you explain why you had the change of heart?. Explain your personal situation -like you are explaining here- with the pregnancy and commute time and doctors visits that are required every week?. I am not sure why a sane person wont understand the reasons why you decided not to join them. Further, if they do not understand, ask them if they have filed paperwork for H1?. If NO, then what is the claim of $3000 for?
I explained my situation (I told them everything I wrote here) to them, but they don't care to listen. I have asked for the sign of contract proof and after that so far no mails from them.
I explained my situation (I told them everything I wrote here) to them, but they don't care to listen. I have asked for the sign of contract proof and after that so far no mails from them.
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snathan
04-13 07:44 AM
Waste of time. How many PhD's are there as compared to the others? There is already EB1/EB2-NIW for them
Have you forgot how many visa numbers the EB1A/EB1B/EB2-NIW consume...if they are not counted it will free up 10-20k visa numbers annually at least...
Have you forgot how many visa numbers the EB1A/EB1B/EB2-NIW consume...if they are not counted it will free up 10-20k visa numbers annually at least...
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xmmx10
11-19 12:16 PM
Damn...I saw it was Apr 2007 for NSC and when I rechecked its back to Oct bulletin. What the hey...
For Nebraska:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=NSC
For Texas:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
Summary for I485:
Nebraska has processed most applications that it has had for 7 months (filed on or before April 14 2007).
Texas has processed most applications that it has had for 6 months.
Since 6 months is the target, Texas can be considered to be caught up, and Nebraska will likely have caught up next month.
For I485 that makes the visa bulletin the main issue.
For Nebraska:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=NSC
For Texas:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
Summary for I485:
Nebraska has processed most applications that it has had for 7 months (filed on or before April 14 2007).
Texas has processed most applications that it has had for 6 months.
Since 6 months is the target, Texas can be considered to be caught up, and Nebraska will likely have caught up next month.
For I485 that makes the visa bulletin the main issue.
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dealsnet
02-26 01:22 PM
Don't answer to this person. He is started many threads and make funny questions. He is wasting our time. All contradition. See some of his postings below. One question he talks about receiving GC posted to his parents. Another talks about his sister. Admin................Please take care of this guy.!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by nirdlalegcade
yes that's right, what if my sister recieved my GC by mail here in the US while I'm outside the country.. I am planning to use my h4 visa to go out of US..
Today, 01:37 PM
nirdlalegcade
Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
what if
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what if my I-485 is July 20, 2007 (it is processing), how long will it take before they can send my GC to me?
01-20 05:08 PM
nirdlalegcade
Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
leaving US without greencard but has H4 visa.
________________________________________
Hi to all. (questions are in BOLD, RED / GREEN words)
Actually, I don't have any idea on this but I just want to ask if I can leave & go back to the US with just my H4 visa? Cause I'm still waiting for my green card cause it's still in process.
My parents are here in the US and the reason why I want to go back to my country is because I want to continue my studies there.
Another question is:
If I go back in my country with just the H4, what if while I'm in my country and my green card is sent in my parents (in US), Can they just send the green card to me and use it if I go back to US?
PLEASE HELP ME.
I appreciate any help. Thank you.
cause i'm kinda desperate. he-he-he.
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Last edited by nirdlalegcade : 01-20-2008 at 05:41 PM.
what if my I-485 is July 20, 2007 (it is processing), how long will it take before they can send my GC to me?
Originally Posted by nirdlalegcade
yes that's right, what if my sister recieved my GC by mail here in the US while I'm outside the country.. I am planning to use my h4 visa to go out of US..
Today, 01:37 PM
nirdlalegcade
Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
what if
________________________________________
what if my I-485 is July 20, 2007 (it is processing), how long will it take before they can send my GC to me?
01-20 05:08 PM
nirdlalegcade
Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
leaving US without greencard but has H4 visa.
________________________________________
Hi to all. (questions are in BOLD, RED / GREEN words)
Actually, I don't have any idea on this but I just want to ask if I can leave & go back to the US with just my H4 visa? Cause I'm still waiting for my green card cause it's still in process.
My parents are here in the US and the reason why I want to go back to my country is because I want to continue my studies there.
Another question is:
If I go back in my country with just the H4, what if while I'm in my country and my green card is sent in my parents (in US), Can they just send the green card to me and use it if I go back to US?
PLEASE HELP ME.
I appreciate any help. Thank you.
cause i'm kinda desperate. he-he-he.
________________________________________
Last edited by nirdlalegcade : 01-20-2008 at 05:41 PM.
what if my I-485 is July 20, 2007 (it is processing), how long will it take before they can send my GC to me?
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Jaime
09-07 03:05 AM
How many more before Congress acts?
COME WITH US TO WASHINGTON TO TELL CONGRESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY WAITED LONG ENOUGH!!!!
How many more of us need to leave???? Let's not wait and find out! We love the United States and want to continue to contribute to its growth, world leadership and well-being. Don't let short-sighted politicians prevent you from securing what you have rightfully earned: The Right to contribute to the U.S. in peace and freedom, without abuse, without discrimination, and without the constant threat of being uprooted and kicked out the door like a piece of used old furniture!!!
COME WITH US TO WASHINGTON TO TELL CONGRESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY WAITED LONG ENOUGH!!!!
How many more of us need to leave???? Let's not wait and find out! We love the United States and want to continue to contribute to its growth, world leadership and well-being. Don't let short-sighted politicians prevent you from securing what you have rightfully earned: The Right to contribute to the U.S. in peace and freedom, without abuse, without discrimination, and without the constant threat of being uprooted and kicked out the door like a piece of used old furniture!!!
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ramus
04-27 04:51 PM
Fond this..
http://hagel.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=219529&Month=4&Year=2007
Is this CIR in sanate?
http://hagel.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=219529&Month=4&Year=2007
Is this CIR in sanate?
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06-19 12:32 PM
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ibbu_arif
11-17 05:21 PM
Thanks "LostinGCProcess" { I apologize to call you by your userID :) }
This give me confidence to travel even if I don't get my AP approved.
I actually posted one more post asking my concerns about multiple security checks
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22443
Can you please advise what in your opinion is the best thing to do.
I know the security clearance timeframe is unknown, but how long does the PIMS check take?
This give me confidence to travel even if I don't get my AP approved.
I actually posted one more post asking my concerns about multiple security checks
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22443
Can you please advise what in your opinion is the best thing to do.
I know the security clearance timeframe is unknown, but how long does the PIMS check take?
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Imigrait
09-07 01:31 PM
I was in the same situation as you when I applied. In general, there should not be a problem with MS+0.
Another alternative is to show the experience gained at your current employer in your application. For that to happen, you should've been promoted to a position in which ur exprience is 50% same as your old position, then you can get an affidavit from your manager stating this fact.
This is what we had done for my traditional labor. I believe it still holds true for PERM, suggest you talk to the company's lawyer.
Could you explain that a little further?
When you say "experience is 50% same" does that exactly mean how you said it OR does that mean "experience is at least 50% same" OR "experience is at the most 50% same"?
Thanks.
Another alternative is to show the experience gained at your current employer in your application. For that to happen, you should've been promoted to a position in which ur exprience is 50% same as your old position, then you can get an affidavit from your manager stating this fact.
This is what we had done for my traditional labor. I believe it still holds true for PERM, suggest you talk to the company's lawyer.
Could you explain that a little further?
When you say "experience is 50% same" does that exactly mean how you said it OR does that mean "experience is at least 50% same" OR "experience is at the most 50% same"?
Thanks.
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xbohdpukc
09-25 02:52 PM
Because there is little certainity about the Green card many people hesitating to buy houses. There is good chance that the housing market will definitly improve if the Green card waiting period decreases.
you are kidding, right? According to the latest figures the number of houses in the market is about 3.5 millions, which amount to 7 months of housing supply. Even if tomorrow DOL will process all its backlog of 180K applications and INS issue pending however-many-GC applications pending (I believe I heard a # of 500K including those 180K they are expecting to get from the DOL) it won't affect the housing market a bit.
you are kidding, right? According to the latest figures the number of houses in the market is about 3.5 millions, which amount to 7 months of housing supply. Even if tomorrow DOL will process all its backlog of 180K applications and INS issue pending however-many-GC applications pending (I believe I heard a # of 500K including those 180K they are expecting to get from the DOL) it won't affect the housing market a bit.
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pbojja
05-22 11:46 AM
Why not let people apply 485/140 concurrently even if their PDs are not current?.
All of us who were stuck know what a relief it is to have EAD in hand. Also non-IT spouses can work if they get their EAD.
Not that everybody would listen but I would say that it will be good if they allow concurrent filing even if the PD is not current and process the cases when PD becomes current.
I Agree with you , But again if they allow concurent filling ROW will get preference over us as they will be current most of the time .
I think it would be best if they allow us to apply for 485 regardless of priority date once 140 is approved .
140 may take a year but atleast you know you can file 485 in a year , with priority date rule you never know when you can apply
All of us who were stuck know what a relief it is to have EAD in hand. Also non-IT spouses can work if they get their EAD.
Not that everybody would listen but I would say that it will be good if they allow concurrent filing even if the PD is not current and process the cases when PD becomes current.
I Agree with you , But again if they allow concurent filling ROW will get preference over us as they will be current most of the time .
I think it would be best if they allow us to apply for 485 regardless of priority date once 140 is approved .
140 may take a year but atleast you know you can file 485 in a year , with priority date rule you never know when you can apply
Aah_GC
07-16 04:01 PM
I agree. These days I freak out when I go to Murthy's website. All that verbose is just a sneeze's worth of what you read in this site. I am almost allergic of murthy.com.
You've got to hand it to these attorneys. They have a way of writing a lot without saying anything.
Sheela Murthy excels in this art. In this situation, should we still file for 485 or not? She will write a whole page on this and finally say you have to make that decision yourself.
Thank you, but I already know that one!
You've got to hand it to these attorneys. They have a way of writing a lot without saying anything.
Sheela Murthy excels in this art. In this situation, should we still file for 485 or not? She will write a whole page on this and finally say you have to make that decision yourself.
Thank you, but I already know that one!
kondur_007
10-13 03:09 PM
Is it mandatory to wear business formal? I am going to get visa stamping with my wife, she is applying for H4.
Thanks!
I wore a T-shirt and Jeans; they did not ask me any questions.
No need to be "formal"; especially if you are going for re-stamping or already living in US. When you go back to your home country, it is "vacation" for you and so you are normally going to be casual.
Good Luck.
Thanks!
I wore a T-shirt and Jeans; they did not ask me any questions.
No need to be "formal"; especially if you are going for re-stamping or already living in US. When you go back to your home country, it is "vacation" for you and so you are normally going to be casual.
Good Luck.
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