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walking_dude
10-09 10:21 AM
People are so 'adjusted' to standing in the queue, they want to make the queue permanent for themselves, as well as others. Reminds me of a story where a gentleman asked for a boon from God to turn him 'blind in one eye' so that his neighbor, who asked God that he be given twice the first one asked, will be blind in both eyes!
What does ending 'Retrogression' have to do with PDs? If retrogression ends, it means everyone will get GC in 6 months to a year. Even those with earlier PDs benefit along with newer PDs. No one's left out (except for FBI name check which doesn't honor PD now anyways!). I can't understand why people have problem with that, when they have equal chances of getting Permanent along with others.
PDs are irrelevant for EB1, EB2 ROW etc. No one cares or probably even knows their PD in those categories. PD is comparable to Jail system to keep people locked up ( 'your time to get out has not come yet'). Making dates current is freeing everyone from this Jail together. But some people don't want it to happen. Arguments such as 'I spent 6-7 years waiting, others should also wait' is immature and childish. I can understand 5 year tots making such kiddish demands. It's sad to see mature grownups acting such childish manner. Some people have become adjusted so much to 'Retrogression System Jail' they never want it to end , like the way Mr. Red ( Morgan Freeman) is scared of leaving the jail in the 'Shawshank Redemption', as life without the jail (Retrogression) scares them!
There is a medical term to describe this mental condition 'Crab Mentality', which is often used to describe Alcoholics and Drug Addicts. Try to lift one single crab from a vessel full of crabs, other crabs will try their best to pull that one back. Same mentality is at play here - if I don't get it nobody else should get it. Don't you guys feel shamed to act so self-centered and selfish like crabs?
This is my last post on the subject. I've better things to do ( my chapter meeting, IV action items etc.) than waste time arguing with arm-chair pundits.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
What does ending 'Retrogression' have to do with PDs? If retrogression ends, it means everyone will get GC in 6 months to a year. Even those with earlier PDs benefit along with newer PDs. No one's left out (except for FBI name check which doesn't honor PD now anyways!). I can't understand why people have problem with that, when they have equal chances of getting Permanent along with others.
PDs are irrelevant for EB1, EB2 ROW etc. No one cares or probably even knows their PD in those categories. PD is comparable to Jail system to keep people locked up ( 'your time to get out has not come yet'). Making dates current is freeing everyone from this Jail together. But some people don't want it to happen. Arguments such as 'I spent 6-7 years waiting, others should also wait' is immature and childish. I can understand 5 year tots making such kiddish demands. It's sad to see mature grownups acting such childish manner. Some people have become adjusted so much to 'Retrogression System Jail' they never want it to end , like the way Mr. Red ( Morgan Freeman) is scared of leaving the jail in the 'Shawshank Redemption', as life without the jail (Retrogression) scares them!
There is a medical term to describe this mental condition 'Crab Mentality', which is often used to describe Alcoholics and Drug Addicts. Try to lift one single crab from a vessel full of crabs, other crabs will try their best to pull that one back. Same mentality is at play here - if I don't get it nobody else should get it. Don't you guys feel shamed to act so self-centered and selfish like crabs?
This is my last post on the subject. I've better things to do ( my chapter meeting, IV action items etc.) than waste time arguing with arm-chair pundits.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
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mchatrvd
08-26 03:55 PM
I will also suggest guys waiting with their PD current to write to the USCIS Director in DC. I did that; not sure if that worked in my case, but one needs to explore every way of bringing their case to the attention of the management.
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09-28 11:15 AM
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vbkris77
09-24 09:08 AM
By law the job should be in different company. However many desi employers are having two or more sister companies. They get it applied under another sister company's name.
Had it been a different company too this porting of date for B (my example above) is not justified. Because when B had originally applied he did not have the EB2 qualification/experience. He gained it later, so he should not be allowed to use the original date for EB2. The law should be the new perm date for the EB2 should be the priority date.
The porting of date should only be allowed in same category, if someone changes a job after 180days of 485 and remains in same category.
EB2 I applicants should point this out. I know many of my friends have started sending out memo to USCIS.. But to take any adminstrative measure more people need to follow or contact USCIS.
Else it is your fate.. you know better what to do...
It is legal per INA to do that.. So your letters and your friends letters are just gutted in the trash right away.. :p
Had it been a different company too this porting of date for B (my example above) is not justified. Because when B had originally applied he did not have the EB2 qualification/experience. He gained it later, so he should not be allowed to use the original date for EB2. The law should be the new perm date for the EB2 should be the priority date.
The porting of date should only be allowed in same category, if someone changes a job after 180days of 485 and remains in same category.
EB2 I applicants should point this out. I know many of my friends have started sending out memo to USCIS.. But to take any adminstrative measure more people need to follow or contact USCIS.
Else it is your fate.. you know better what to do...
It is legal per INA to do that.. So your letters and your friends letters are just gutted in the trash right away.. :p
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mariner5555
04-30 02:29 PM
gcbikari ,
Your argument is wrong. From the PERM FLATDATA Center DATA,
These are the Figures for TOAL LABOR CERTIFICATIONS for all the countries:
2003--->62912
2004--->43,582
2005---->6133
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1,12,627
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Alex ..does this mean EB3- I will move to 2004 mid atleast ;) ? nowadays getting hope lifts spirits too :-D
Your argument is wrong. From the PERM FLATDATA Center DATA,
These are the Figures for TOAL LABOR CERTIFICATIONS for all the countries:
2003--->62912
2004--->43,582
2005---->6133
-----------------
1,12,627
---------------
Alex ..does this mean EB3- I will move to 2004 mid atleast ;) ? nowadays getting hope lifts spirits too :-D
venkybr
08-27 01:33 PM
Anyone who sent 485 application to NSC, 140 approved from NSC, got their receipts from TSC?
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sujith1
07-30 09:10 AM
Receipt Date - July 11
Card Production Ordered July 29
This is for me. For my spouse also it was filed at the same time with same RD. No update on that - Hers was a renewal vs mine was new and she needs it more than me since hers will expire soon.
No logic to any of this :mad:
Card Production Ordered July 29
This is for me. For my spouse also it was filed at the same time with same RD. No update on that - Hers was a renewal vs mine was new and she needs it more than me since hers will expire soon.
No logic to any of this :mad:
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indyanguy
09-30 12:33 PM
Hi,
Can someone explain the process of using AC21 for self employment? I have searched the web without much luck. If someone can throw some light on this topic along with how to deal with issues that come up with AC21 and self employment I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
Can someone explain the process of using AC21 for self employment? I have searched the web without much luck. If someone can throw some light on this topic along with how to deal with issues that come up with AC21 and self employment I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
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snthampi
02-02 07:19 PM
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Lol.. majority needs reservations ??, in a class of 100 if 50 % are group A, then group has the most chance of getting jobs with the sheer attribute of having numbers to advantage, however if group A is morally corrupt and think that reservation is their birthright, then so be it. They will always suffer with prosecution complex.
I think, people used the reservation system to get their degrees in India should be pushed back in the GC line. What do you all say?
Just kidding :-)
Lol.. majority needs reservations ??, in a class of 100 if 50 % are group A, then group has the most chance of getting jobs with the sheer attribute of having numbers to advantage, however if group A is morally corrupt and think that reservation is their birthright, then so be it. They will always suffer with prosecution complex.
I think, people used the reservation system to get their degrees in India should be pushed back in the GC line. What do you all say?
Just kidding :-)
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belmontboy
07-20 02:43 PM
Guys, Please don't fight.
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
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drona
07-09 06:34 PM
We made news at USCIS! Whatever he does with the flowers is not our concern. The fact is we made the news there. Hopefully the media will pay attention too.
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07-20 11:24 AM
Could some body please let me know on how to contribute ?
I pledge $100.
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makemygc
08-01 01:10 PM
Wait till next week-end. My 140 mailed to NSC on 11th April (why?? not sure) and received RN from texas. ND was dated 19th April. RD was 13th April.
Now # of applications are more so it can take more time but your RD will be maintained.
Hope this helps...
Thanks for the info...that helps. But the issue is they changed something last month (I need to search on that) and according to which 485 will be processed in two places NSC or TSC based on their I140 approval. As you know they keep changing the rule every month, it really hard to track all of these things.
Now # of applications are more so it can take more time but your RD will be maintained.
Hope this helps...
Thanks for the info...that helps. But the issue is they changed something last month (I need to search on that) and according to which 485 will be processed in two places NSC or TSC based on their I140 approval. As you know they keep changing the rule every month, it really hard to track all of these things.
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diptam
06-23 10:51 AM
I believe we did sufficient Brain storming on this and the following bottom lines came out to extract EMPLOYER LETTER :-
a) Tell them softly you will bear expense for 485 on your own as you feel for company interests and growth perspectives and that may get hampered if company has to bear the cost of 485 for most employees together and request them to just issue you the EMP letter.
b) Tell them that your well Educated wife is getting frustrated day by day sitting at home and this 485 will give her the much needed freedom to go for a job or start some small business.
c) If they ask for a bond - talk to them sweetly , negotiate the bond wordings as much as possible and sign it - Try to keep some emails / voice mails saved and later on ( after Porting Jobs) use them to let your employer know that you are going to DEPT of LABOR to expose the whole story if they bug you or threaten you too much.
Following 2 are little more aggressive approaches (Single's can pursue)
d) If you have 2 yrs of H1B left tell them that you are simply leaving them because these days Perm + 140 takes 3-4 months for right employer and PD are all current.
e) Tell them that you are working with another company for a Labor substitution unless they issue EMP LETTER
Following one is a extreme risky approach and is not recommended
f) Some one mentioned about somehow getting a Letter head and helping
yourself .... But your whole efforts and money could be wasted at a later point of time.
here's my 2 cents.
There are still some labor subsitution available. Lot of desi company want to use them before 07/16 oherwise they willl lose everything. Tell ur employer that you are getting labor subsitution and just ned to change ur h1. if you are not going to issue a letter in 2days, I have my options open.
it may work.
a) Tell them softly you will bear expense for 485 on your own as you feel for company interests and growth perspectives and that may get hampered if company has to bear the cost of 485 for most employees together and request them to just issue you the EMP letter.
b) Tell them that your well Educated wife is getting frustrated day by day sitting at home and this 485 will give her the much needed freedom to go for a job or start some small business.
c) If they ask for a bond - talk to them sweetly , negotiate the bond wordings as much as possible and sign it - Try to keep some emails / voice mails saved and later on ( after Porting Jobs) use them to let your employer know that you are going to DEPT of LABOR to expose the whole story if they bug you or threaten you too much.
Following 2 are little more aggressive approaches (Single's can pursue)
d) If you have 2 yrs of H1B left tell them that you are simply leaving them because these days Perm + 140 takes 3-4 months for right employer and PD are all current.
e) Tell them that you are working with another company for a Labor substitution unless they issue EMP LETTER
Following one is a extreme risky approach and is not recommended
f) Some one mentioned about somehow getting a Letter head and helping
yourself .... But your whole efforts and money could be wasted at a later point of time.
here's my 2 cents.
There are still some labor subsitution available. Lot of desi company want to use them before 07/16 oherwise they willl lose everything. Tell ur employer that you are getting labor subsitution and just ned to change ur h1. if you are not going to issue a letter in 2days, I have my options open.
it may work.
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amitjoey
05-23 01:06 PM
Called Senator Leahy's office. The lady asked me to leave a message to the senator on the answering machine.
Neelu, Please post your messages on the phone thread also, it will inspire everybody to start calling.
Neelu, Please post your messages on the phone thread also, it will inspire everybody to start calling.
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NKR
08-18 07:58 AM
One of my friend got "Card Production Ordered" email. He is EB2-I, PD Jan 2006, RD- Sep 30 2007, NSC.
Mine is Dec 2005 and still waiting. So what is going on with NSC? Are they also doing the same thing that TSC is doing? latest cases first?
What is your RD?. I think they are going by RD but I am not sure.
my RD is 10th Oct, ,my PD is May 2004.
Mine is Dec 2005 and still waiting. So what is going on with NSC? Are they also doing the same thing that TSC is doing? latest cases first?
What is your RD?. I think they are going by RD but I am not sure.
my RD is 10th Oct, ,my PD is May 2004.
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02-09 03:35 PM
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asdqwe2k
06-27 03:06 PM
I am really surprised that you guys are contemplating on going against your employer for a employment letter and filing your GC. I mean, how hard is it for you guys to agree to the terms of your employer that you will work till you get your GC and upto 6 months beyond that..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
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punjabi
12-17 02:18 PM
Hi friend,
I understand your situation. You can do two things:
1. Watch a recent documentary movie "The Secret" (you can rent it from Blockbuster and Netflix)
2. Donate at least $100 to IV.
Good luck.
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
I understand your situation. You can do two things:
1. Watch a recent documentary movie "The Secret" (you can rent it from Blockbuster and Netflix)
2. Donate at least $100 to IV.
Good luck.
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
h4help
08-29 02:32 PM
recieved July 5th at NSC @ 11.11 am signed by Heinauer ..
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bomber
07-20 12:22 PM
There are still many out there who are happily enjoying the fruits of Aman's and other core members' hard work without even knowing what they did for us. For them it's just something that happened on its own. I joined in June and became a contributing member when I came to know the efforts being put in by core. I know for some people shelling out $100 is a big deal, particularly AFTER the victory in this first fight, but guys, think if you were made to wait for 3-4 more years before you were allowed to apply. Your spouses can work now and make more money for your household.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
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